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Wook
02-01-2008, 02:08 PM
The Specter of Specter looms over ye. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3225539&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)

Senator wants to know why NFL destroyed Patriots spy tapes
ESPN.com news services

Updated: February 1, 2008, 10:57 AM ET
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Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) wanted to hear the NFL's explanation for the purging of evidence in the infamous "Spygate" case involving the New England Patriots. He wrote commissioner Roger Goodell on Nov. 15. He got no response.

Specter, the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, wrote Goodell again more than a month later, after getting no acknowledgment to the initial communication.

Two days before the Super Bowl, there is plenty of response.

In a phone interview Thursday with The New York Times, Specter said the committee at some point will call on Goodell to discuss why the league destroyed the tapes that revealed the Patriots had been spying on the competition.

"That requires an explanation," Specter told The Times. "The NFL has a very preferred status in our country with their antitrust exemption. The American people are entitled to be sure about the integrity of the game. It's analogous to the CIA destruction of tapes, or any time you have records destroyed."

An NFL spokesman told The Times that Specter's letters did not reach the league until late last week, and there was no mention of the letters on the occasions the two parties had communicated on other issues. Specter said his office had been told by the NFL that there would be no response until after Super Bowl XLII.

Spygate came to the forefront in September, when New York Jets security officials discovered a Patriots video assistant recording the Jets' defensive signals during the Sept. 9 game at Giants Stadium. The videocamera and tape were confiscated. Goodell also ordered the Patriots to turn over all videotape, notes and files involving taping of opponents' signals.

The Patriots got hit by the most severe penalty in NFL history -- coach Bill Belichick was fined $500,000, the team was fined $250,000 and also will lose a first-round pick in the draft in April.


Subsequently, the league said it had destroyed the tapes after looking at them. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello, in a September e-mail to ESPN.com, wrote that the reason for destroying them was "so that our clubs would know they no longer exist and cannot be used by anyone."

Specter, a lifelong Philadelphia Eagles fan who still calls sports radio stations on Monday mornings, said he was concerned about the integrity of sports.

"I don't think you have to have a law broken to have a legitimate interest by the Congress on the integrity of the game ... What if there was something on the tapes we might want to be subpoenaed, for example? You can't destroy it. That would be obstruction of justice," Specter said to The Times.

There is no timetable for when the committee would call upon Goodell, who has a previously scheduled news conference Friday morning in Phoenix.

Bill Belichick, at his Friday morning news conference, was asked about Specter and his demand for an NFL explanation on the tapes' demise. "It's a league matter," Belichick said. "I don't know anything about it."


The possibility exists that Patriots employees or other NFL personnel would have to testify before the committee.

"It's premature to say whom we're going to call or when," Specter said. "It starts with the commissioner. He had the tapes, and he made the decision as to what the punishment could be. He made the decision to destroy them."

silverwhisper
02-01-2008, 02:13 PM
sen specter quoth:
it's analogous to the CIA destruction of tapes, or any time you have records destroyed.
bingo. although i think that the explanation that teams could rest easy knowing nobody else could use that infromation is probably meaningless, if you ask me.

Mouser
02-01-2008, 02:32 PM
Has he got nothing better to do, that old fossil?

The NFL is its own SRO.

Let it go.

Wook
02-01-2008, 06:40 PM
Has he got nothing better to do, that old fossil?

The NFL is its own SRO.

Let it go.

I don't like putting an * on 7ish years of football and 3 super bowl champions. Thanks for the thought though.

Brother Brian
02-02-2008, 08:37 AM
I don't like putting an * on 7ish years of football and 3 super bowl champions. Thanks for the thought though.

I don't disagree with you, and don't think you really can put a * on it without more proof.

But is this really the most important thing Spector has to worry about? Doesn't he have an actual job to do?

(And when did the NFL get an Anti-trust exemption?)

silverwhisper
02-02-2008, 08:56 AM
BB: the anti-trust exemption was in the wake of the AFL/NFL merger, IIRC.

me, if specter wants to investigate this, i would hope it's at the behest of his constituency and not merely "man, the eagles and steelers disappointed us this season!"

Starhawk
02-02-2008, 05:41 PM
As much as I want to know more about the realities of Spygate and as much as I loathe the Patriots, I can't help but think it's bad form for Specter to bring this up during Super Bowl week.

Why not earlier in the season?

Detritus
02-02-2008, 06:06 PM
The USFL sued the NFL basically on antitrust grounds about 20 years ago, so I don't think the NFL actually has any sort of antitrust exemption. Or, at least they did not at the time of the USFL's lawsuit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Football_League#USFL_v._NFL

EDIT -- I take it back, apparently the NFL has some form of antitrust exemption dating back to 1961:

http://www.freepress.net/news/19616

carmachu
02-02-2008, 06:35 PM
As much as I want to know more about the realities of Spygate and as much as I loathe the Patriots, I can't help but think it's bad form for Specter to bring this up during Super Bowl week.

Why not earlier in the season?

there was something in the paper about 2006 or so that the Pats taped the Rams final superbowl walk through...that might have something to do with it....

carmachu
02-02-2008, 06:37 PM
I don't disagree with you, and don't think you really can put a * on it without more proof.


But with the quick destruction of the tapes....how the hell will we know or not?

Wook
02-03-2008, 06:28 AM
I want goedel to sweat. After the super bowl I belichek made to sweat. Their attempt to brush it all away was ham fisted at best.

Brother Brian
02-03-2008, 04:08 PM
But with the quick destruction of the tapes....how the hell will we know or not?

I don't disagree, but do you convict on a lack of evidence?