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Origen
06-21-2007, 09:56 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070621/wl_nm/venezuela_submarines_dc

Venezuela's Chavez says may buy submarines

CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuelan could buy a fleet of submarines as part of its broad-ranging military purchases, President Hugo Chavez said on Thursday, a week after reports his government would buy submarines from Russia.

Chavez, a self-described leftist revolutionary, has sparked criticism from Washington with a string of military acquisitions including Russian rifles and fighter jets which he says are necessary to defend the OPEC nation from a possible U.S. attack.

"People are making a big fuss about how we might buy some submarines -- why not?," Chavez said during a televised meeting with supporters. "I do not know if we are going to buy them, but if we buy them no one should be alarmed."

Defense Minister Raul Baduel last week denied domestic and international media reports that Venezuela was preparing to buy at least five submarines from Russia, where Chavez is scheduled to visit next week.

Venezuela over the last year has purchased 100,000 Kalashnikov AK-103 rifles, 24 Sukhoi fighter jets and 53 Russian helicopters as part of a $3 billion long-term arms contract.

The deals came as the U.S. banned arms sales to Venezuela and refused to approve commercial licenses that would allow other countries to sell U.S.-manufactured military technology to the South American nation.

U.S. officials accuse Chavez of launching a military spending spree and question his motives for beefing up Venezuela's armed forces.

Chavez, a former soldier turned leader of an increasingly influential Latin American left, says he is seeking to replace aging equipment and accuses the United States of intervening in Venezuelan affairs by trying to limit its access to arms.

In the coming weeks he is also scheduled to visit Iran and Belarus, countries also openly at odds with the United States.

carmachu
06-21-2007, 09:57 PM
*sigh* As someone once said, its sick out there and getting sicker....

Kalzazz
06-21-2007, 10:19 PM
Whats the big deal?

If for some reason we do decide to pound Venezuala, it just means that 5 submarine silhouettes are painted

We should be happy when our potential foes buy toys, it gives our forces more targets

Consider just how well Iraqi military vehicles served as target practice for us

carmachu
06-21-2007, 10:24 PM
Whats the big deal?

If for some reason we do decide to pound Venezuala, it just means that 5 submarine silhouettes are painted

We should be happy when our potential foes buy toys, it gives our forces more targets

Consider just how well Iraqi military vehicles served as target practice for us

*sigh* No imagination, kids these days.

Smuggling arms, especially biolgical or chemical. How's that for a start? Or nuclear?

I can think of several things to do with my own fleet of subs.

Origen
06-21-2007, 10:24 PM
The concern mostly depends on whether or not the submarines are capable of launching cruise missiles.

To the best of my knowledge, Venezuela is not a nuclear power:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

... but whenever anyone as stupid as Chavez gets weapons like this, it's reason to be concerned.

carmachu
06-21-2007, 10:27 PM
The concern mostly depends on whether or not the submarines are capable of launching cruise missiles.

To the best of my knowledge, Venezuela is not a nuclear power:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

... but whenever anyone as stupid as Chavez gets weapons like this, it's reason to be concerned.


Uhm China is. And I believe china has been selling them arms. Why not nukes? Or biolgical or chemical warheads? I mean it would cause other people headaches and keep them clean.