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Detritus
11-06-2009, 02:26 PM
NPCs present
Tremere - Rebekka, Meerlinda, Muaziz, Sabine, Sarah, Merill

Toreador - Gwynnis, Anneke, Bonnie, Dee Dee, Kallista, Ramiel

Gangrel - Camille, Roman, Erik, Zack

Brujah - Antoinette, Yuri

We’ll take it as given that introductions are made as needed…

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Gwynnis and her brood descend the stairs together and rejoin the meeting in the parlor. Gwynnis holds a sword in the crook of her arm in the manner of a scepter, and Rosalyn now carries a spear. A peacefulness that you hadn’t noticed before seems to have settled upon the group.

Antoinette slinks back into the parlor shortly after the return of the Toreador. Rebekka is engaged in conversation with Meerlinda and Muaziz as Sabine looks on when Antoinette reappears. Sarah excuses herself from the group of Tremere and goes to Antoinette, and an animated discussion between the two begins.

Then Merill, Ramiel, and Yuri arrive. Rebekka seems a little surprised to see all three of them. She motions them over to her to receive their report.

“Things are well with Crusher?”

“Well enough, Majesty,” replies Merill. “He seems to be quite taken with Uma. Thomas seemed to find it funny, though I can’t imagine why, and we decided that he should stay with Radeyah as… chaperones.” Merill’s delivery is deadpan, but both Ramiel and Yuri seem to be trying to suppress grins without complete success.

The Prince looks at the three men, eyebrow arched, until all traces of mirth are gone from their faces.

“Very well,” she finally says, “let us call this meeting to order.”

Rebekka then recapitulates the issues revolving around the fall of Jocelin, the appearance of Sidana and Rosalyn, and the need for Sidana’s capture to restore both her and Jocelin.

“Needless to say, capturing Sidana will be a dangerous undertaking. The main order of business for this meeting will be to determine who will be involved in this mission and what they will need for it successful completion. Those who have returned from the rescue mission for Jocelin will be a part of the task force, and at least some of those who have made visual contact with the enemy’s camp.”

Rebekka turns to François. “Have you any thoughts on who should be in the field for this mission?”

Detritus
11-06-2009, 03:33 PM
Rebekka then recapitulates the issues revolving around the fall of Jocelin, the appearance of Sidana and Rosalyn, and the need for Sidana’s capture to restore both her and Jocelin.
Since I forgot to mention it, this recapitulation also includes a summary of the findings from the scouting mission out at Lake Pontchartrain.

Brother Brian
11-06-2009, 04:24 PM
"As far as who should attend to the battle itself, I would have my clan fighting beside me. Others could better advise you of where the martial talent in the city otherwise lies. Certainly though, those who can identify Siadana must be present."

Pausing Francois says, "As for the evening boat trip to aquire supplies, I would suggest the pilot, Jake, myself, and perhaps two or three others who could take on the role of servants for any mortal eyes that may be at the dock."

Turning to Jake, he says, "Do you have the wardrobe to appear as a well to do business man?"

Detritus
11-08-2009, 11:08 PM
"What is the scope of the engagement going to be?" Anneke asks. "It could take most of our front-line fighters to be sure of capturing Sidana. She is not an opponent to be trifled with. Yet, unless some sort of surgical strike is planned, I'm uncertain whether it is wise to commit so many of our forces against a single target."

SD Anderson
11-09-2009, 07:04 AM
"What can we surprise her with?" Jack asks. "Anyone familiar with the sorts of defenses she's put up before?"

Chimaera
11-09-2009, 10:32 AM
"As far as who should attend to the battle itself, I would have my clan fighting beside me. Others could better advise you of where the martial talent in the city otherwise lies. Certainly though, those who can identify Siadana must be present."

Pausing Francois says, "As for the evening boat trip to aquire supplies, I would suggest the pilot, Jake, myself, and perhaps two or three others who could take on the role of servants for any mortal eyes that may be at the dock."

Turning to Jake, he says, "Do you have the wardrobe to appear as a well to do business man?"

"Absolutely. Mind you, the man we're buying from knows me. I was thinking that I would be playing the role of facilitator slash middle-man. Perhaps you could play the mysterious Mr. Moneybags?"

Brother Brian
11-09-2009, 10:38 AM
"Absolutely. Mind you, the man we're buying from knows me. I was thinking that I would be playing the role of facilitator slash middle-man. Perhaps you could play the mysterious Mr. Moneybags?"

"Of course, but the dress is not to impress your contact, but rather any curious neuvo rich on the docks who expect a certain level of savoir faire. Old money and singers can dress shabby chic. Business men earning a dishonest fortune have to look the part. Feel free to change into whatever you feel appropriate once we are out to sea."

Chimaera
11-09-2009, 03:23 PM
OOC: Just to be clear, because it seems like I've perhaps fumbled the ball in offering a description, but Jacob's current attire is more than adequate for what you're suggesting. By and large, Jacob dresses quite well, if positively sombre by Toreador standards.

Brother Brian
11-09-2009, 04:20 PM
OOC: Just to be clear, because it seems like I've perhaps fumbled the ball in offering a description, but Jacob's current attire is more than adequate for what you're suggesting. By and large, Jacob dresses quite well, if positively sombre by Toreador standards.

OOC: Ah, I picutred a more Coture, less business appearance, typical Toreodor.

Chimaera
11-09-2009, 04:24 PM
OOC: Ah, I picutred a more Coture, less business appearance, typical Toreodor.

OOC: Black jacket and black flat-front trousers, nicely tailored, uncuffed with a sharp break. Understated black square-toe shoes, blue button up shirt, longish, pointed collar and with the cuffs peeking through the jacket, unfastened.

Detritus
11-09-2009, 06:03 PM
((There's some PM traffic going on between me and Kal in re: Sidana's defenses, and how Rosalyn might answer that question, FYI. It hasn't been forgotten))

"You have completed your shopping list for the transaction?" Rebekka asks.

((OOC -- I'm not sure if you have or not, so you can iron it out now, if needed.))

Chimaera
11-09-2009, 06:05 PM
((There's some PM traffic going on between me and Kal in re: Sidana's defenses, and how Rosalyn might answer that question, FYI. It hasn't been forgotten))

"You have completed your shopping list for the transaction?" Rebekka asks.

((OOC -- I'm not sure if you have or not, so you can iron it out now, if needed.))

"Just waiting on you guys... I've got the white phosphorous rounds lined up. What else do you all think we need?"

Detritus
11-09-2009, 06:13 PM
"Some grenades might come in handy," says Dee Dee, "a few per person in the field."

Kalzazz
11-09-2009, 06:28 PM
"As for defenses, Sidana is blazingly fast, but can't fly . . . . though I understand some of our enemy have ways to mitigate such altitudinal hindrances. She would be quite good at picking us off one by one if we are careless or uncoordinated. It would be best to choose an area that could hinder her mobility"

"As for identifying her, if you can identify me, then you can identify her . . . I might want to pick a distinctive outfit as Id be quite unhappy with anyone staking me . . . . on that note, stakes could also be useful . . . bows or crossbows if anyone can use them. New Orleans is a coastal city, what about nets or harpoons?"

Detritus
11-10-2009, 03:03 AM
"As for identifying her, if you can identify me, then you can identify her . . . I might want to pick a distinctive outfit as Id be quite unhappy with anyone staking me . . . . on that note, stakes could also be useful . . . bows or crossbows if anyone can use them. New Orleans is a coastal city, what about nets or harpoons?"
"Unless the bow was drawn by Artemis herself, I don't believe it would have any effect on Sidana," says Gwynnis. "In addition to the usual Toreador disciplines, she has some facility with Fortitude, enough to render attacks by bow inert." Laying a hand upon Rosalyn's spear, she says, "My guess is that it will fall to you to immobilize her."

Turning towards the room, the Justicar says, "Heed well Rosalyn's warning about Sidana's skirmishing abilities. She will not be daunted by a foe with superior numbers. In addition to Fortitude, she can also draw upon Potence. Between that and her spear, it is enough to fell all but the hardiest Kindred with a single blow."

"That suggests we should pick a site that would limit her mobility," Dee Dee says.

"Yes, either that or have the flanks held by those whom Sidana cannot outmaneuver through sheer speed," replies Gwynnis. "In either case, I think both you and Anneke should be part of the mission."

Brother Brian
11-10-2009, 10:19 AM
"Is she fortitudinous enough to ignore the crippling effect of wood piercing her heart?" Francois says with amazement. "I have not heard of anyone mastering the dicipline so completely."

Detritus
11-10-2009, 12:44 PM
"Is she fortitudinous enough to ignore the crippling effect of wood piercing her heart?" Francois says with amazement. "I have not heard of anyone mastering the dicipline so completely."
"Certainly not," replies Gwynnis, "but it would take a bow with an extraordinary amount of pull to get an arrow to pierce Sidana's skin. Unless you caught her by surprise, I suppose, before she could raise her defenses. We haven't really discussed how to approach her at stealth, though."

Chimaera
11-10-2009, 01:16 PM
"What about impeding her movement? Can she fly? What if we trap her in some way? Draw her into a field of our choosing -- I don't care how much Celerity you've got, a greased floor is still a greased floor, right? And if we're aiming to take her out, a trap might work better than trying to nobly face her down in battle. Cut her up with a .50 cal, to slow her down, then finish her off with fire. I'm just brian-storming here, mind you."

Kalzazz
11-10-2009, 02:25 PM
"The goal notably is not to take her out. The goal is to capture her"

Chimaera
11-10-2009, 02:45 PM
"Ah, okay then... So, then, perhaps the .50 cal solution is a place to start? It can slow her down, wound her, help immobilize her, but not really kill her, yes? Do we have any means of holding her once she's been secured?"

Kalzazz
11-10-2009, 03:18 PM
"If she can be secured a stake will do the trick"

"Can anyone here use this .50?"

Brother Brian
11-10-2009, 03:30 PM
"As I recall, the plan was first to seperate her from any companions she may bring. The heavy guns will be more appropriate in that setting." Francois says. Once she is alone, how many of us would you recommend would be needed to subdue her. I don't know her capabilities, but staking someone in combat is oft a difficult proposition."

SD Anderson
11-10-2009, 05:35 PM
"Trained with one in the Air Force." Jack says. "I may be rusty though."

(ooc "Gunner" is not on the character sheet though it is something backgroundishly appropriate. With a DX of 14, Jack can default.)

edit: (assumes the CIS .50MG detailed in Modern Fire power p.30 and the table p.45, mostly because Modern Firepower was sitting on top of my printer and High Tech 3rd is probably in one of two dufflebags out in the garage...)

9- base skill but I'll aim one second and take the ACC bonus of FIFTEEN.

Kalzazz
11-10-2009, 06:27 PM
"If one of the gangrel could perchance find it within themselves to turn into something excessively big and strong, I believe she might want to give polar bear wrestling a try"

Detritus
11-11-2009, 12:51 AM
"Trained with one in the Air Force." Jack says. "I may be rusty though."

(ooc "Gunner" is not on the character sheet though it is something backgroundishly appropriate. With a DX of 14, Jack can default.)

edit: (assumes the CIS .50MG detailed in Modern Fire power p.30 and the table p.45, mostly because Modern Firepower was sitting on top of my printer and High Tech 3rd is probably in one of two dufflebags out in the garage...)

9- base skill but I'll aim one second and take the ACC bonus of FIFTEEN.
I don't have either of those sourcebooks, so I will need some stats on whatever heavy weaponry you're proposing to use.

Detritus
11-11-2009, 12:59 AM
"I shall remind everyone that we are planning to capture my eldest childe," Gwynnis says. "We will certainly consider all options, but it would be preferable if she were in one piece after her capture.

"On the matter of isolating her, I am sure there are several of us who will not be present at the confrontation with Sidana who have the ability to Summon others. If we set a watch on her, we can draw away some of her companions as she approaches the site we have prepared. Forces decoyed are forces destroyed, and all."

SD Anderson
11-11-2009, 01:12 AM
I don't have either of those sourcebooks, so I will need some stats on whatever heavy weaponry you're proposing to use.

CIS 50 MG 12.7 x 99 mm (.50 cal Browning) Introduced the dual feeder and has two disintegrating belts usually carrying two distinct ammo types the gunner can switch to as desired. Comes with a quick change barrel (one extra standard) to allow the barrels to cool without extended downtime.

Malf Crit
Damage 13d+1
SS 20
Acc 15
1/2D 1800
Max 7400
Wt: 66+44.5
AWt: 2x22
RoF 10
ST 32T
Shots 2 x 100
RCL -1
Cost $12,000
LC 0
TL 7

Detritus
11-11-2009, 05:44 PM
"I shall remind everyone that we are planning to capture my eldest childe," Gwynnis says. "We will certainly consider all options, but it would be preferable if she were in one piece after her capture.

"On the matter of isolating her, I am sure there are several of us who will not be present at the confrontation with Sidana who have the ability to Summon others. If we set a watch on her, we can draw away some of her companions as she approaches the site we have prepared. Forces decoyed are forces destroyed, and all."
"If we're going to use some sort of Summoning diversion," says Dee Dee, "it needs to be far enough away from the capture site so that it can provide a few minutes' worth of delay, at least. It could be here, I suppose, if the other site is sufficiently remote. I'm assuming you won't bring them all the way here, or wherever."

"Most likely not, no," replies the Justicar.

"And we'll need to figure out how we're going to deploy the big guns, if it comes to that," says the Sheriff.

Brother Brian
11-13-2009, 09:16 AM
"This brings up an interesting option. I know Rochette, as he used to be named, well enough to summon him sight unseen. Might we not gain an advantage immediately by summoning him to an area distinctly away from where we summon Siadana? Might this not require them to divide whatever forces they would bring?"

Francois paces back and forth while in thought.

"If we set it up properly, we can create a trap to delay whatever forces they bring, allowing me to bring only a small body to the diversion site, leaving the main force to deal with Siadana and her personal attendants."

Detritus
11-13-2009, 02:49 PM
"How many from their side could we divert?" asks Gwynnis.

"A number of us know Samantha and Bianca," says Ramiel.

"I could try to bring Lucian, but he may have the means to protect himself from a Summons," says Rebekka. Gwynnis raises an eyebrow at this.

"Could this protection be extended to others?"

"It is possible, yes, but I wouldn't be in a position to know unless I was able to see those we decide to call to us."

"Bonnie and I would have to watch the ones we call in any event. You will brief me on the signs of this protection?" Rebekka looks to Meerlinda, and the Councilor gives a nod. The Justicar's lips tighten a little at this interplay, but she does not speak of it.

"Very well," she says, "that is five others beyond Rochette that we could divert. Will you be able to work with that, François?"

Brother Brian
11-13-2009, 03:07 PM
"Indeed. I will need, if possible, a map of the city and surrounding areas, and a list of available troops. It may be that dividing our forces five ways leaves the group to take on Siadana to thin however. Has anyone any general idea of what size force Siadana would be able to put together on such short notice?"

Chimaera
11-13-2009, 03:42 PM
"So... shall I put in an order for .50 cal mounted on a jeep? I can't promise it, but I can try to see if we can wrangle it. I'm just about due for the call-back -- any more items for the Christmas list?"

Brother Brian
11-13-2009, 03:51 PM
"Might I say, at the risk of sounding overly rigid, that such a weopon would be difficult to either hide or explain away to the mortal authorities, should it happen to come up? And that while it isn't in itself a breach of the masquerade, it does in fact, open the curtains that might be better left shut?"

Chimaera
11-13-2009, 04:16 PM
"Might I say, at the risk of sounding overly rigid, that such a weopon would be difficult to either hide or explain away to the mortal authorities, should it happen to come up? And that while it isn't in itself a breach of the masquerade, it does in fact, open the curtains that might be better left shut?"

"How big of a breach of the Masquerade does this whole scrap threaten to become? Werewolves, Siadana engaging in displays of power... A .50 Cal is illegal and attention-getting, but it doesn't breach our secrecy, not like a super-fast, super-tough chick leaping around with werewolves. Moreover, how else do you propose to take her on? We have to make some concession to getting the job done, don't we?"

Brother Brian
11-13-2009, 04:37 PM
"How big of a breach of the Masquerade does this whole scrap threaten to become? Werewolves, Siadana engaging in displays of power... A .50 Cal is illegal and attention-getting, but it doesn't breach our secrecy, not like a super-fast, super-tough chick leaping around with werewolves. Moreover, how else do you propose to take her on? We have to make some concession to getting the job done, don't we?"

Francois stares at Jake for a moment, incredulously.

"No, one does not conceed one's core values in order to get the job done. Our values are why the job needs to be done in the first place. Furthermore, I can not control what our enemy brings to the field, however your point is well taken. We will need to locate areas for summoning as far from mortal eyes as possible, as our enemy has no qualms against breaking the masquerade."

Chimaera
11-13-2009, 04:40 PM
Francois stares at Jake for a moment, incredulously.

"No, one does not conceed one's core values in order to get the job done. Our values are why the job needs to be done in the first place. Furthermore, I can not control what our enemy brings to the field, however your point is well taken. We will need to locate areas for summoning as far from mortal eyes as possible, as our enemy has no qualms against breaking the masquerade."

Jake speaks slowly at this point.

"Then why do we need to worry about the .50 Cal? If you're so confident about picking our ground as a means of maintaining the Masquerade, then how does our artillery become an issue?"

Kalzazz
11-13-2009, 05:50 PM
"Unless the America's changed while I was away, is not the .50 cal legal with a permit? I am certain that some among us are quite good with permits. We should however pick a battlefield where the guns use won't violate local noise ordinances, in the country perhaps, where shooting guns in the middle of the night is considered a festive celebration of freedom rather than anything untoward"

Chimaera
11-13-2009, 05:55 PM
"Unless the America's changed while I was away, is not the .50 cal legal with a permit? I am certain that some among us are quite good with permits. We should however pick a battlefield where the guns use won't violate local noise ordinances, in the country perhaps, where shooting guns in the middle of the night is considered a festive celebration of freedom rather than anything untoward"

OOC: Well, they appear to be legal in Louisiana, at least. I thought fully-auto was illegal?

Brother Brian
11-13-2009, 05:57 PM
A snarl starts moving up the corner of Francois mouth at Jake's insult, but is quickly pushed back down. The anger does not leave his eyes.

"Because military grade arms are far harder to hide than those moving with a sense of alacrity," he pauses as if to ensure Jake understands this point, "Furthermore, while gunshots from pistols and rifles are a fairly common occurance in this city, the rapid fire of high calibure fully automatic weapons is bound to attract attention."

Turning politely to Rosalyn he says, "It may be possible they are legal to own, but to discharge in any but a secure setting? I would guess no."

Brother Brian
11-13-2009, 05:59 PM
OOC: Well, they appear to be legal in Louisiana, at least. I thought fully-auto was illegal?

OOC: You are required to hold a special liscense type, and register fully automatic weapons, complete with exhorbetant exise taxes. They are out of the reach of most people, but are, technically speaking, legal.

(I'm not sure if .50 cal rounds are.

Chimaera
11-13-2009, 06:12 PM
A snarl starts moving up the corner of Francois mouth at Jake's insult, but is quickly pushed back down. The anger does not leave his eyes.

Jake rolls his eyes at this.

"Because military grade arms are far harder to hide than those moving with a sense of alacrity," he pauses as if to ensure Jake understands this point

At which point, Jake cuts in -- "Unless, say, mounted on a Jeep. Besides which, the point is, you might find it more elegant to hunt elephants with pistols, sometimes, you just need a frigging elephant gun."

"Furthermore, while gunshots from pistols and rifles are a fairly common occurance in this city, the rapid fire of high calibure fully automatic weapons is bound to attract attention."

"Dude? I don't know if you're in charge here or not, but if so, you're doing a piss-poor job at the moment. Untangle your thong for a moment and consider that first you're having a fainting spell over the Masquerade -- well guess what, that's our enemies' call, not ours. Oh, but you knew that! But what the hell, no time like the present to be redundant, right? But it gets better! Then you decide to scold about noisy guns, and then, a syllable or two later, you're saying we have to choose our ground. Do you not see the issue? Do you not see the contradiction? Dude, can you pick just one flavour of annoying? You're bitching for no good reason I can tell. Do you want me to kow-tow to you in some way? Well sure, here you go -- [he bows] -- you're a bad-ass, I get that. Now, can you unclench and stop being part of the problem? I'm trying to do what I can to help. If you have a practical fucking suggestion, instead of limp fault-finding in an affected accent, by all means, share. Otherwise, how about you go play drama-queen off the left somewhere?"

Turning politely to Rosalyn he says, "It may be possible they are legal to own, but to discharge in any but a secure setting? I would guess no."

Jake rolls his eyes again.

Kalzazz
11-14-2009, 12:04 AM
((Full auto MGs created after 1986 are illegal, prior to 1986 are not illegal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act You must fill out the Form 4 from the ATF and pay a $200 tax, along with photo and fingerprints. The ammo conveniently can be ordered online, or would come from the Cabela's in Baton Rouge. This place apparently ships via UPS http://www.50bmgsupply.com/ of course, Rosalyn doesnt know about the 1986 law because she wasnt around then ))

Kalzazz
11-14-2009, 12:12 AM
"I did suggest we hold our little festival in the country I believe? Or if we prefer, the slums"

Detritus
11-14-2009, 03:03 PM
"Gentlemen," Rebekka begins, when Gwynnis breaks in.

"Boys, I should say. I see two drama queens before me, neither of whom is being ideally helpful at the moment." A sardonic grin appears on the Justicar's face for a few seconds before she resumes a more businesslike expression.

"We will take care in the deployment of such potent weaponry, to minimize our chance of discovery. That much goes without saying, or at least it should." The Justicar glances at Jake before continuing.

"If I may suggest, such weapons would be best put to use in providing suppression fire against those of Sidana's companions that we are unable to divert by other means. In that case, we may wish to order a second machine gun, in order to set up some sort of crossfire. If we can take out some of Sidana's bodyguard, so much the better. This strategy may help clarify what sort of terrain we wish to occupy for the coming confrontation.

"I will reiterate my preference that such weapons not be brought to bear on Sidana herself. There would be some danger that she would enter torpor, and I am unsure how that would affect the ritual. I am sure that delivering her into the loving hands of her sisters will be sufficient."

Chimaera
11-14-2009, 03:23 PM
Jake flashes a grin.

"Gotcha. So, I'll see about the machine-gun and a relevant vehicle, then. Do you have any other requests? And do you have any suggestions as to how to best engage Siadana? I appreciate that you wish to minimize the risks to her, but I'd kind of like to minimize our risks as well. My thought was that the machine gun would be able to deploy sufficient short-term damage as to allow us to overwhelm her without risking her life, but it seems I was mistaken in this. Fair enough -- do you have any suggestions? I mean, she sounds pretty hardcore. And is there anything else I should try and shop for?"

Kalzazz
11-15-2009, 12:46 AM
"Id suggest seeing about nets or traps . . . . say for illegal tiger hunting, and I do like the idea of a second machine gun, should someone be able to use it. Machine guns can use tracers, which might be an exciting choice here"

"Judging by the keys and insurance card I possess, Jocelin's vehicle might be a suitable choice for mounting one of the gun . . . it like a jeep is open topped, but significantly larger, and one would suspect more stable. "

Rosalyn looks up and smiles a bit "And using such a vehicle as a combat platform would lend this operation a certain aesthetic flair"

Kalzazz
11-15-2009, 12:52 AM
"Hmmm . . . and if we intend to choose the site of the battle, mines?"

SD Anderson
11-15-2009, 03:45 AM
Drama baronetesses, maybe... Jack thinks.

"Is there anyone else in Sidana's group you particular want in one piece and conversely, anybody there you would mind seeing smeared?" Jack asks.

Detritus
11-15-2009, 06:33 PM
"Is there anyone else in Sidana's group you particular want in one piece and conversely, anybody there you would mind seeing smeared?" Jack asks.
"I have no other long-lost childer," replies Gwynnis. "If the opportunity presents itself to capture anyone else, you may do so, but need not resort to capturing anyone else in particular at all cost. Samantha and Heather may be destroyed with extreme prejudice."

"If you encounter him, capture Lucian if you can," says Rebekka, "but his destruction is preferable to his escape."

Brother Brian
11-16-2009, 09:41 AM
At the Justicar's words, Francois' seems to enter an internal battle of will. Anyone observing him with more than just a passing glance will notice he's shifted his back foot slightly, and his muscles have tensed considerably. His eyes, hard at the best of times, sit as diamonds in their sockets. His glance darts back and forth between Jake and Gwinnis, and it becomes obvious he is struggling, (successfully thus far), to hold back the Brujah curse.

Finally, he speaks, as though it causes him physical pain to do so. "Very well. I will take my Brujah, and call the one known as Rake to myself, at whatever time you appoint. I will however, have no part in calling mortal attention to the certain breach of the Traditions that our enemy will engage in, and as I am Primogen of this city, neither will my clan."

Detritus
11-16-2009, 03:08 PM
The room falls silent, and Gwynnis turns towards Rebekka.

"And what would you do if I insisted that we have some Brujah present at the main battle site?" the Prince asks quietly.

Brother Brian
11-16-2009, 03:23 PM
The room falls silent, and Gwynnis turns towards Rebekka.

"And what would you do if I insisted that we have some Brujah present at the main battle site?" the Prince asks quietly.

Francois smiles wickedly. "I would recommend you have my clan's Justicar issue such an order. And were he to contact me to do so, I would ask him to investigate why the newly imposed Prince of New Orleans was willing to risk all that the Camarilla stands for, the laws of Caine himself."

Turning to Gwinnis he says, in a respectful tone, "Understand, I do this not out of contrariness, nor pique. However treating New Orleans or it's surrounding area as if it was Afghanistan is folly. My duty to the Camarilla requires me to not allow, or if unable to prevent, to not take part, in any action which puts the primary tradition at risk. My duty to my clan is to advise them to do the same, again out of loyalty to the Camarilla.

Kalzazz
11-16-2009, 03:41 PM
"You do note that the goal of the main action directly pertains to restoring your lost clan member? I believe certain among your clan realize this" glances towards Antoinette and Yuri

Brother Brian
11-16-2009, 04:12 PM
"You do note that the goal of the main action directly pertains to restoring your lost clan member? I believe certain among your clan realize this" glances towards Antoinette and Yuri

"I do recognize this. But though it pains me to say so, no person, not myself, not Jocelin, not the Justicar herself, is worth so much as to risk the traditions. Further, I am not at all convinced that the battle is lost without the use of such high end ordinance."

Francois pauses, "On a more practical front, unloading such military grade weaponry on a public marina would prove dangerous to our secrecy, given that the trip is, on it's surface, a business outing."

Chimaera
11-16-2009, 04:21 PM
"To be honest, I'm not sure why a boat trip was planned at all. We just need a relatively private, out of the way place. I imagine that New Orleans has any number of largely abandoned industrial zones, especially in the wake of Katrina. Why we would be playing loading and unloading from a boat eludes me. And I'm not married to the idea of big guns. Given the parameters of the problem being described, however, it seemed worth mentioning."

Kalzazz
11-16-2009, 07:14 PM
"I still do not think the authorities would be sufficiently inspired toward action if the guns were deployed in the country, especially in an area such as the enemy compound, which to all appearances would appear like a survivalist compound and thus the guns native habitat"

Brother Brian
11-16-2009, 08:04 PM
"Did I not read of survivalist compounds in Texas and Montana that were survailed by mortal authorities due to fear of overabundance of guns?"

Kalzazz
11-16-2009, 08:13 PM
"If they are already surveilling it it doesnt matter whether we use large guns or not. If they are not surveilling it now we do not care whether or not they decide to do so after the fact, as after the fact we will not be there for them to see . . . and any firefight is going to be eventually investigated by the police anyway, whether or not machine guns were used"

SD Anderson
11-16-2009, 08:19 PM
"I do recognize this. But though it pains me to say so, no person, not myself, not Jocelin, not the Justicar herself, is worth so much as to risk the traditions. Further, I am not at all convinced that the battle is lost without the use of such high end ordinance."

Francois pauses, "On a more practical front, unloading such military grade weaponry on a public marina would prove dangerous to our secrecy, given that the trip is, on it's surface, a business outing."

"A lot of high ordinance can be passed off as 'terrorist attacks' to the public at large. We run a higher risk with Federal and state police etc however. It might be advisable to have our news and propaganda people ready a disinformation campaign." Jack says.

Detritus
11-16-2009, 08:21 PM
"While we must certainly keep in mind the fragility of the Masquerade, it is more robust than many elders give it credit for, if events are handled properly," says Gwynnis. "Perhaps you can ask the Prince of New York about that. If he can spare time to come, that is, he still doesn't have control over nearly as much of the city as he'd like after five years and change."

Brother Brian
11-17-2009, 09:13 AM
"And yet he upholds the traditions there...." Francois pauses for a moment, collecting his thoughts. "It may be that I spoke in haste. I will hear the entirity of the plans before making any official decisions in regards to the disposition of Clan Brujah in regards to this matter."

Detritus
11-18-2009, 05:33 PM
"So good of you to deign to withhold judgment until the plan has actually been formulated," Gwynnis says in a wry voice. "We shall all do our best to uphold the Traditions, just as was done in securing a foothold in New York, whatever the plan entails. I have already given my suggested restriction on use of heavy weaponry; if you think you can achieve the desired result without resorting to them at all, then by all means, plan accordingly."

"I don't like the idea of taking the fight to the compound we just scouted out," says Muaziz, "not if the idea is to isolate Sidana from her allies."

"Agreed," replies Anneke, "this is much more like a surgical strike than a frontal assault, except that we'll be bringing the target to us."

"If we're worried about Sidana's mobility, might I suggest giving her a lift at the appropriate time?" asks Muaziz. "If it wouldn't violate the Traditions, that is."

The Tremere archon looks at Anneke, who begins to float until she's several inches off the floor. She is surprised for a moment, then reaches out to push off from Rosalyn's spear.

"You'll have to lift her high enough off the ground that she won't be able to pole through the air, to get the most out of that trick," says Anneke. She thinks for a moment before continuing. "But, if Sidana were left hanging while one or more of us could fly, that would be a significant advantage."

"In that case, I should probably be with you at the confrontation with Sidana." Anneke nods affirmation.

"That leaves what to do concerning any potential escort that Sidana can manage to put together once she is called," says Rebekka.

SD Anderson
11-18-2009, 06:31 PM
"That leaves what to do concerning any potential escort that Sidana can manage to put together once she is called," says Rebekka.

"My guess is that the werewolves aren't going to be her primary escorts. Whatever deal the Sabbat and the Dancers have going for them, I doubt they trust each other that much. Tehre may be one of them with her as liasion however." Jack says.

Brother Brian
11-19-2009, 09:30 AM
Francois ignores the implied criticism from the Justicar.

"It well may be that such will have to be determined "on the fly". My feeling, as a soldier, is that battle avoided is battle won, if the goals of the battle are achieved. Upon summoning Siadana it would be helpful to know who among her retinue are available to escort her. From there, summoning her escorts away in as many different optional directions as possible will leave her to appear alone.

"So the first question is who among us has both the ability to scry, and knowledge of the players. Secondly, who among us has the ability to summon another. Finally, we need to determine locations where the summoning will take place."

Detritus
11-19-2009, 02:21 PM
((There's a list of Summoners in this post (http://forum.criticalfumble.net/showpost.php?p=325906&postcount=30), FYI, it would have only been a few minutes of conversational time, though nearly a week ago in real life.))

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"I can watch Sidana myself," Gwynnis says, "and then coordinate with the others in the field. The Councilor may also be of assistance in that matter."

"Do we need to summon the others to separate locations?" asks Camille. "Are we looking to capture everyone we summon, or just to divert them from Sidana's side? If it's just a diversion, we don't even need to bring the others into our presence, just to keep them away from the main site long enough to effect Sidana's capture."

Brother Brian
11-19-2009, 04:28 PM
((There's a list of Summoners in this post (http://forum.criticalfumble.net/showpost.php?p=325906&postcount=30), FYI, it would have only been a few minutes of conversational time, though nearly a week ago in real life.))

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"I can watch Sidana myself," Gwynnis says, "and then coordinate with the others in the field. The Councilor may also be of assistance in that matter."

"Do we need to summon the others to separate locations?" asks Camille. "Are we looking to capture everyone we summon, or just to divert them from Sidana's side? If it's just a diversion, we don't even need to bring the others into our presence, just to keep them away from the main site long enough to effect Sidana's capture."

"There is a reasonable chance that those we summon away from Sidana will pose a threat to the summoner. I think it will be better to divert each of them seperately, that is, to different locations. From there, we can controll the nature of the conflicts we have with them."

Detritus
11-20-2009, 05:09 AM
"Once again, I must point out that that's predicated on the idea of capturing the Kindred we distract, too, instead of just calling them for a while and then letting go before they arrive," replies Camille. "Is that really what we're after, capturing the others? If that's the case, I'll want some fairly hefty backup if I'm going to end up calling Bianca or Samantha to me. They'll be dangerous by themselves even against a small group of opponents, unless they find themselves facing one of our big guns, of which I am sad to say that I am not one such. There's a certain safety in numbers, and less coordination to boot."

Brother Brian
11-20-2009, 09:11 AM
"We must keep our primary objective in mind, that being Sidana. That said, I would not send a summoner to the four winds alone. It seems to me however, that a number of small skirmishes, is superior to a pitched battle with all of our enemies minions. While in either case a significant number are bound to escape, our ability to control their withdrawl will be superior. Further should any of our enemy have the abiltiy to locate Sidana, they will be unable, after the withdrawl, to easily inform their contemperaries of her location.

"Remember that the summon compells the target only to come, not to stay. Should we summon them en mass, they will be prepared no doubt, to beat a hasty retreat."

As an afterthought, Francois adds, "In any event, I believe that the restriction to capture is on Sidana only. Should her leutenants fall to us, that is not problematic."

Detritus
11-20-2009, 03:49 PM
"I think that will be fine," Anneke says, with a bit of a sharp look for Camille. "A few Kindred at each Summoning site will probably be OK, but with those of us confronting Sidana and others to occupy her companions that we can't call away, that sounds like we're talking about pressing virtually everyone in the city into service."

"How would you assess Crusher's reliability?" Rebekka asks. Anneke takes a moment to consider her answer.

"He should be fine by tomorrow night, after a third round of treatment. He's probably OK now. I think he made a mistake, but nothing more." The Justicar's head moves side-to-side, a dubious motion, at this pronouncement.

"We will have to make that determination tomorrow night, I suppose," says Rebekka.

"There's also the prisoner to keep guard over," says Dee Dee. "If they think fast enough, they might try to free her. A bit of a long shot, but I'd be amazed if they didn't at least know where we're holding her."

"Let us begin dividing up the personnel, then," says Rebekka. "Anneke, Dee Dee, Rosalyn, Muaziz to confront Sidana. François to call Rake. Ramiel and Camille would have to call Bianca and Samantha, in some order, and I would be calling Lucian. Gwynnis and Bonnie would be wild cards, to Summon whomever they deem appropriate after scrying."

Detritus
11-21-2009, 06:27 PM
For the the purposes of planning, here is the input that comes out over the next couple of minutes from the NPCs:

Roman and Antoinette both want to be at the main site.

Zack will accompany Camille. Wynn states no particular preference at this time.

Kallista looks at the choices amongst her fellow clan mates, and her lips tighten a bit, but she doesn't offer any particular preference.

Ramiel says something about perhaps having Radeyah come with him to his summoning location.

It's not said out loud, but Sarah most likely will end up with Rebekka. You get the feeling that Gwynnis and Meerlinda will end up together, too.

In terms of stated preferences and feelings, this is how things shape up at the moment:

Main site - Anneke, Dee Dee, Rosalyn, Muaziz, Antoinette, Roman + ??

Camille/Zack + ??

Rebekka/Sarah + ??

Gwynnis/Meerlinda + ??

Bonnie + ??

Ramiel/Radeyah + ??

François + ??

Anyone else in the city (and you can check the New Orleans by Night thread to see who all that entails as far as NPCs go) might be considered for any of the sites, and there is still a prisoner to guard, too.

Kalzazz
11-21-2009, 06:43 PM
((So, unallocated people, Wynn, Thomas, Merrill, Yuri, Kallista, Jack, Leo, Sabine, Uma, Anastasia, Erich, Felecia, Adrianne . . . and possibly Crusher?))

Detritus
11-21-2009, 06:59 PM
((So, unallocated people, Wynn, Thomas, Merrill, Yuri, Kallista, Jack, Leo, Sabine, Uma, Anastasia, Erich, Felecia, Adrianne . . . and possibly Crusher?))
Adrianne is presently in torpor, but she can be placed with Jake. Otherwise, yes.

Brother Brian
11-23-2009, 10:37 AM
Francois observes the distribution of troops, but doesn't speak. He seems, not disinterested, but unconcerned about who comes with him.

Chimaera
11-23-2009, 10:51 AM
((OOC: Where is Jake being shuffled in all of this? Did I miss something?))

Detritus
11-23-2009, 02:04 PM
((OOC: Where is Jake being shuffled in all of this? Did I miss something?))
Jake hasn't been assigned anywhere thus far. I wasn't sure how active a role the PCs wanted to take in terms of volunteering for a specific site, so I let things ride for the moment until everyone had a chance to respond. It looks like the ball is in back my court for divvying people up.

Chimaera
11-23-2009, 02:17 PM
Jake hasn't been assigned anywhere thus far. I wasn't sure how active a role the PCs wanted to take in terms of volunteering for a specific site, so I let things ride for the moment until everyone had a chance to respond. It looks like the ball is in back my court for divvying people up.

((OOC: Jake is probably keeping shtum in this instance anyhow, as he likely doesn't feel confident enough to try and fast-talk himself into a nice, rear-echelon administrative position. :D))

Huxley
11-23-2009, 02:17 PM
((Yeah. Leo, not being the military tactics sort, will go where those who have that expertise think it best))

Brother Brian
11-23-2009, 03:01 PM
(OOC: Sorry Det, but Francois is seeing this as an opportunity to take out Rochette.)

SD Anderson
11-23-2009, 08:40 PM
"I suggest we prioritize what we want to accomplish with this. What should be the one thing we want accomplished more than anything else down to the least important detail." Jack says.

Drake seems intent on climbing up her line of descent and everyone of her allies seem to think this is a good idea. Stopping this should be a major objective."

Kalzazz
11-23-2009, 09:29 PM
"Capturing Sidana is the first priority"

'Not dieing in the process should also be given due consideration"

Detritus
11-24-2009, 02:53 AM
"I suggest we prioritize what we want to accomplish with this. What should be the one thing we want accomplished more than anything else down to the least important detail." Jack says.

Drake seems intent on climbing up her line of descent and everyone of her allies seem to think this is a good idea. Stopping this should be a major objective."
Dee Dee makes no effort whatsoever to hide the look of scornful disbelief she gives you. The other elder Toreador in the room all make similar gestures of lowering their foreheads onto palms or fingertips. Meerlinda gives you a quizzical look, and a number of the other Kindred near you eye you askance.

"Haven't you been paying attention, lad?" Zack asks, a trace of a condescending smile on his lips. After a brief, awkward pause, Rebekka speaks. You can all but imagine being able to chip off the icicles that form on her words, words that resonate with the power of Majesty.

"We are well aware of the danger Miss Drake poses. We must remind you, apparently, that a significant effort has already been undertaken to locate Justicar Walsh's sire, and that even more will be done before sunrise if we do not hear word of him in the coming hours. If you have the means to determine his whereabouts more expediently, we will give it the full consideration it merits. Likewise, if you have some plan for trapping or capturing Miss Drake, we shall be delighted to have you present it to us.

"Failing that, we strongly suggest that you remain focused on the objective at hand -- restoring two of our number, one of whom may well be deep in the counsels of our enemy, in an extremely compressed time frame."

Detritus
11-30-2009, 07:01 AM
Another tense silence ensues, and it wouldn't surprise you if laser beams were to suddenly shoot out from the Prince's eyes. It is Wynn who finally resumes the conversation.

"It doesn't hurt to be detail oriented in planning out the secondary objectives, of course. I am a little surprised to learn of any confusion as to what the primary objective is." He frowns at Jack for a moment before returning his attention to Rebekka.

"Very well, you and Jack can join Camille and Zack, and call Samantha," Rebekka says, her voice still ringing with the authority of Majesty. "Plan to your heart's content."

"Perhaps one of you will have time to housebreak him in the interim," says Gwynnis, rather pointedly not looking at Jack.

==============

Site assignments will start to divide along clan lines, although not perfectly so. This is what I've got, though we haven't really talked about it:

Main site - Rosalyn, Anneke, Dee Dee, Muaziz, Roman, Antoinette, Yuri, Anastasia (Erich?)

Camille, Zack, Jack, Wynn, (Erich?)

Ramiel, Radeyah, Kallista, Jake, (Felecia?)

François, Uma, Leo, (Merill?)

Rebekka, Sarah, Thomas, (Merill?)

Gwynnis, Bonnie, Meerlinda, Sabine, (Felecia?)

Two summons will occur at this last site, which will be the mansion itself. They'll be guarding the prisoner and coordinating the remote sites from here. Raise any objections to the distribution/locations of Kindred now.

Kalzazz
11-30-2009, 03:43 PM
((Id like it if Merrill can be assigned to the main site, with Merrill and Muaziz will have two casters. Erich isnt needed at the main site as Roman and Anastasia have the gangrel angle covered))

Kalzazz
11-30-2009, 03:50 PM
"Also what of . . . Crusher?" Rosalyn frowns a little thinking this name, while perhaps appropriate for the man hardly seems a fitting name for anything more sentient than a chihuahua

"Do we trust him enough to field him? Or do we not trust him enough to stake him? I am unsure there is a middle ground, we certainly cant devote people enough to guard him"

Detritus
12-01-2009, 03:35 AM
"Also what of . . . Crusher?" Rosalyn frowns a little thinking this name, while perhaps appropriate for the man hardly seems a fitting name for anything more sentient than a chihuahua

"Do we trust him enough to field him? Or do we not trust him enough to stake him? I am unsure there is a middle ground, we certainly cant devote people enough to guard him"
"We could take him into custody as with the Assamite," says Dee Dee.

"A ward is one possibility," Rebekka replies, having still not dropped her Majesty, after studying the Sheriff for a moment.

"After three swallows, he should be... amenable to direction," says Gwynnis.

"The control will be diffuse, spread as the bond will be," replies the Prince.

"We shall have to present a united front, then. He can be stationed here either way. We have until tomorrow night to assess his trustworthiness." Rebekka nods, then turns to Jake.

"We will need price and availability on two .50 caliber guns. We shall let that decide whether to include them in our plans."

((OOC -- OK, revised Kindred assignments:

Main site - Rosalyn, Anneke, Dee Dee, Muaziz, Roman, Antoinette, Yuri, Anastasia, Merill

Camille, Zack, Jack, Wynn, Erich

Ramiel, Radeyah, Kallista, Felecia

François, Uma, Leo, Jake

Rebekka, Sarah, Thomas

Gwynnis, Bonnie, Meerlinda, Sabine

Having three PCs at one site is mainly borne of a desire to reduce the number of sites where the PCs will be when the wheels are finally set in motion. Samantha gets five Kindred to greet her since she still is Public Enemy No. 1 right now.))

Kalzazz
12-01-2009, 04:56 AM
((Hmmm. I think Leo and Zack or Wynn should switch places. Only fair Leo gets to go against Arcadian's killer . . . . obviously this is Huxley's call not mine though. That still maintains the PCs at only 3 sites))

"While investigating the prices of ordinance, that of mines might also be of interest. Perhaps something akin to those used in French Indochina which are meant to harm but not destroy" ((Broken kindred can be put back together right? Or was Rebekka fixing herself a weird strange thing and not indicative of actual kindred healing?))

Detritus
12-01-2009, 05:01 AM
((Broken kindred can be put back together right? Or was Rebekka fixing herself a weird strange thing and not indicative of actual kindred healing?))
???

To what does this refer?

EDIT -- OK, I think you are referring to Rebekka growing back a pinky finger from way back when. Severed eyes and tongues have also been healed during the course of the game. In these cases, the raw amount of aggravated damage done wasn't too severe. A Kindred blown limb from limb is going to take more effort to be put back together again than in the examples that have occurred thus far. It could get uncomfortably down to the wire if Sidana were to step on a mine, if this is ultimately what you're hinting at.

Brother Brian
12-01-2009, 09:27 AM
???

To what does this refer?

EDIT -- OK, I think you are referring to Rebekka growing back a pinky finger from way back when. Severed eyes and tongues have also been healed during the course of the game. In these cases, the raw amount of aggravated damage done wasn't too severe. A Kindred blown limb from limb is going to take more effort to be put back together again than in the examples that have occurred thus far. It could get uncomfortably down to the wire if Sidana were to step on a mine, if this is ultimately what you're hinting at.

IC:

Francois says, "While we will eventually heal most damage, a landmine is likey sufficient to cause enough damage to send the kindred foolish enough to step on it to their final death. A dangerous risk should you ask me."

Chimaera
12-01-2009, 10:15 AM
Rebekka nods, then turns to Jake.

"We will need price and availability on two .50 caliber guns. We shall let that decide whether to include them in our plans."

Jake nods.

"On it."

He steps away from the group to a more quiet spot and hits re-dial.

"Bonanza, biznatch. You're going to owe me big for this hook-up. We're down with willy-petes and we're looking for some 50-cal action. I know you can pull this one off, dude."

Detritus
12-01-2009, 05:51 PM
Jake nods.

"On it."

He steps away from the group to a more quiet spot and hits re-dial.

"Bonanza, biznatch. You're going to owe me big for this hook-up. We're down with willy-petes and we're looking for some 50-cal action. I know you can pull this one off, dude."
"How many, and what sort of accessories are we looking at?"

Chimaera
12-01-2009, 05:59 PM
"How many, and what sort of accessories are we looking at?"

"Two. Preferably mounted on something mobile and ammo. Oh, and delivered for tomorrow."

Detritus
12-01-2009, 06:23 PM
"Two. Preferably mounted on something mobile and ammo. Oh, and delivered for tomorrow."
"Army surplus OK for the vehicles or are we looking at something that has to look civilian, and some concealment for the weapon?"

Chimaera
12-01-2009, 07:27 PM
"Army surplus OK for the vehicles or are we looking at something that has to look civilian, and some concealment for the weapon?"

"Surplus works, but concealability is better. Something rugged, that can take a good jostle. Like I said, surplus is okay, but if you've got some of the latter handy, that's preferable. Time is priority one."

Detritus
12-01-2009, 10:04 PM
"Surplus works, but concealability is better. Something rugged, that can take a good jostle. Like I said, surplus is okay, but if you've got some of the latter handy, that's preferable. Time is priority one."
"I can get you a couple of SUVs with pop-up turrets, if you want. But with the guns, and the vehicles, and the mods, and the expedite fee, of course..." There's a pause at the other end. "The price tag is going to run into six figures, easy. Your guys got that kind of scratch on short notice?"

Chimaera
12-01-2009, 10:49 PM
"I can get you a couple of SUVs with pop-up turrets, if you want. But with the guns, and the vehicles, and the mods, and the expedite fee, of course..." There's a pause at the other end. "The price tag is going to run into six figures, easy. Your guys got that kind of scratch on short notice?"

"Give me a number and I'll get you an answer right away."

Jake signals to Rebekka.

Detritus
12-01-2009, 10:59 PM
"Give me a number and I'll get you an answer right away."

Jake signals to Rebekka.
"150 grand," is the reply.

Jake has the Prince's attention.

Chimaera
12-01-2009, 11:27 PM
"150 grand," is the reply.

Jake has the Prince's attention.

"Hold on, homeboy..."

Jake puts the call on hold and approaches the Prince.

"The white-phosphorous ammunition, two SUVs with pop-up turrets and .50 cal machine-guns and ammunition for them, all by tomorrow night? It'll be 150 thousand total. Cash, I imagine. This is a reliable contact, well worth cultivating and holding on to. It's not chump-change, but for what it's worth, I think we're getting a good deal. Shall I make the deal?"

Detritus
12-02-2009, 12:16 AM
"Hold on, homeboy..."

Jake puts the call on hold and approaches the Prince.

"The white-phosphorous ammunition, two SUVs with pop-up turrets and .50 cal machine-guns and ammunition for them, all by tomorrow night? It'll be 150 thousand total. Cash, I imagine. This is a reliable contact, well worth cultivating and holding on to. It's not chump-change, but for what it's worth, I think we're getting a good deal. Shall I make the deal?"
"I could do it, but it's a lot to ask on an adjunct faculty's salary," Rebekka says, turning to Bonnie.

"I may have some loose change lying around," Bonnie says, smiling. "Which president does your friend prefer, Jackson or Grant? Or perhaps Mr. Franklin? He is still well-loved throughout my native land."

"Some armor might be handy, no matter who pays," says Dee Dee.

"Ah, yes," says Bonnie. "See what you can get for an even two hundred, total."

Chimaera
12-02-2009, 01:03 AM
Jake smiles and nods and gets back on the phone.

"Dude, we're on. I'd like the SUVs armoured up, if possible. Also, body armour would be cool. How much more for how many sets? Or do I perhaps sense a throw-in for old time's sake?"

Detritus
12-02-2009, 02:13 PM
Jake smiles and nods and gets back on the phone.

"Dude, we're on. I also need body armour to go with it. How much more for how many sets? Or do I perhaps sense a throw-in for old time's sake?"
((OOC -- I realize now this wasn't clear, but the NPCs were talking about armor plating for the vehicles, although body armor is a good idea, too. There's no way twenty or so flak jackets cost anywhere near $50 K, which is the additional discretionary budget that Jake has to work with.))

Chimaera
12-02-2009, 02:38 PM
((OOC -- I realize now this wasn't clear, but the NPCs were talking about armor plating for the vehicles, although body armor is a good idea, too. There's no way twenty or so flak jackets cost anywhere near $50 K, which is the additional discretionary budget that Jake has to work with.))

((OOC -- Heh; I thought that the pricing was a bit funny, hence my probing to see if he'd throw some in as a bonus. Previous post edited to more properly reflect the current state of affairs.))

Detritus
12-02-2009, 06:05 PM
Jake smiles and nods and gets back on the phone.

"Dude, we're on. I'd like the SUVs armoured up, if possible. Also, body armour would be cool. How much more for how many sets? Or do I perhaps sense a throw-in for old time's sake?"
"How big of a round are you looking to stop here? That'll affect the bottom line."

Chimaera
12-02-2009, 11:50 PM
"How big of a round are you looking to stop here? That'll affect the bottom line."

"What are the doable options?"

Detritus
12-03-2009, 12:14 AM
"For delivery at close of business tomorrow? If you want to keep things looking civilian, we can slap on some steel plating, enough to stop most 9 mm rounds. Extra labor and materials runs another 20 grand per vehicle, so 190 K total. There'll be some holes on a rush job like this. Nothing to do about it; best thing is to disassemble the vehicle completely and integrate the plating, but there won't be time for that.

"If you're willing to go military surplus, we can get you something that will stop .44 Magnum rounds. The gun mount wouldn't be concealed. We might be able to kludge something that passes a casual glance, if we give the ride a paint job, too. It'll be a hundred grand a pop for this option.

"If you think you and Mr. .50 Caliber are going to be meeting one of his brothers, you'll need something even stiffer. That's definitely military surplus, and it's a whole other price bracket. Bidding would start at a quarter mil per vehicle.

"I'll spot you a dozen flak jackets no matter what. Just for old time's sake."

Chimaera
12-03-2009, 12:18 AM
"Looks like option one, then, bro. Where do we take delivery?"

Detritus
12-03-2009, 03:49 AM
"Looks like option one, then, bro. Where do we take delivery?"
"A deserted dock front would probably do the trick. I think you'll need to narrow it down further for me. Could be anywhere if drop off and pick up don't have to happen at the same time, now I think about it."

Detritus
12-04-2009, 03:23 AM
((OOC -- Re-revised Kindred assignments now listed. We're getting pretty close to turning the crank to some new threads for more detailed plannination.

Main site - Leighton, Rosalyn, Anneke, Dee Dee, Muaziz, Roman, Antoinette, Yuri, Anastasia

Camille, Jack, Leo, Erich, Merill

Ramiel, Radeyah, Kallista, Thomas

François, Uma, Sabine, Jake

Rebekka, Sarah, Zack, Felicia

Gwynnis, Bonnie, Meerlinda, Wynn

I'm penciling in Leighton at the main site now, as both backup magical support and someone with experience coordinating troops. He should be able to arrive to New Orleans around an hour before dawn on Wednesday, though it could be a while for the IC threads to arrive at that time. We'll see.

Merill then slides over to the Samantha site along with Leo. All the sites have at least one Tremere for magic support, and there's now a Big Stack 'O Elders What Can Handle Themselves that will be remaining at the mansion. Could still flip out someone like Erich for either Zack or Wynn, if you don't want the Samantha site to be lacking in both elders and/or archons. Camille is doing the Summons, so she stays there. We're starting to approach one of those old time GRE Analytic questions, I think.))

Chimaera
12-04-2009, 01:20 PM
"A deserted dock front would probably do the trick. I think you'll need to narrow it down further for me. Could be anywhere if drop off and pick up don't have to happen at the same time, now I think about it."

"That works if you want to leave the gear and pick up the cash after, dude. I'm happy to meet you face to face. Shall we say [whatever time 1 hour after sunset is]? I'll text you the address 30 minutes before that."

Detritus
12-04-2009, 03:16 PM
"That works if you want to leave the gear and pick up the cash after, dude. I'm happy to meet you face to face. Shall we say [whatever time 1 hour after sunset is]? I'll text you the address 30 minutes before that."
"All right, I'll have the vehicles downtown and you can tell me where to go. Pleasure doing business."

Chimaera
12-04-2009, 03:19 PM
"All right, I'll have the vehicles downtown and you can tell me where to go. Pleasure doing business."

"Always. Au 'voir, dude."

Jake pockets his phone and turns to Rebekkah.

"It's a done deal...", he begins, as he proceeds to report on the details of the deal and conversation.

Detritus
12-04-2009, 04:46 PM
"Always. Au 'voir, dude."

Jake pockets his phone and turns to Rebekkah.

"It's a done deal...", he begins, as he proceeds to report on the details of the deal and conversation.
What specifically will Jake report as the total cost of the deal?

Chimaera
12-04-2009, 04:51 PM
What specifically will Jake report as the total cost of the deal?

I'll clearly outline the options and tell them that I went with option 1 as the best balance of cost, defense and concealment, for a total of $190 K.

Detritus
12-04-2009, 06:08 PM
I'll clearly outline the options and tell them that I went with option 1 as the best balance of cost, defense and concealment, for a total of $190 K.
OK, just wanted to make sure there was no scamming of elders going on here. ;)

We're probably ready to break out into smaller, more detailed planning threads now, unless there's anything else anyone wants to bring up.

Kalzazz
12-04-2009, 06:10 PM
((Did they come to a conclusion on Crusher? It doesnt seem listed in the Great Red Distribution))

Chimaera
12-04-2009, 06:13 PM
OK, just wanted to make sure there was no scamming of elders going on here. ;)

We're probably ready to break out into smaller, more detailed planning threads now, unless there's anything else anyone wants to bring up.

Heh heh heh... Without ruling out possible future chicanery, right now, Jake is in *no* position to be pulling fast ones of any sort. He's genuinely committed to and invested in becoming a member of Camarilla society. You've got to learn the rules before you can break them properly. ;) :sagrin:

Detritus
12-04-2009, 06:59 PM
((Did they come to a conclusion on Crusher? It doesnt seem listed in the Great Red Distribution))
That decision is being held in abeyance until tomorrow evening. The choices are either field deployment or a forcecube jail at the mansion.