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BlueNinja

09-06-2008, 05:49 PM

This forum is here for fans of Kat Richardson's Greywalker (http://www.greywalker.com/fiction/books.html) book series. Discussion of other urban fantasy series, such as Dresden Files, Anita Blake, Dark Hunter, and the like are cool as well. Please keep conversation polite and don't feed the trolls; that's what GE&R is here for. :grin:

BlueNinja, your friendly neighborhood moderator

Harper

09-06-2008, 08:33 PM

Thank you, Mr. Dictator, sir.

BattleNymph

09-06-2008, 09:39 PM

I haven't read Greywalker yet but am right smack dab in the middle of the Harry Dresden series!

(mourns the descent into suckage that was Anita Blake)

The Thin Grey Line

09-07-2008, 01:05 AM

Hmmm- do any of her fans know we are here?

BlueNinja

09-07-2008, 01:11 AM

(mourns the descent into suckage that was Anita Blake) Don't we all. :th_thumbsdownsmiley

Hmmm- do any of her fans know we are here? I talked to her earlier, she's made mention of the forum in her blog and created a link to the main forum page. I'd give it a few days though for people to start trickling in.

Mouser

09-07-2008, 01:13 AM

Dresden is awesome.

The tv series sucked donkey balls.

Origen

09-07-2008, 01:33 AM

Hmmm- do any of her fans know we are here?

I'm her fan, up through Obsidian Butterfly and not counting the Meredith Gentry series.

After that, it's bad porn.

(And I even like porn.)

Mouser

09-07-2008, 01:59 AM

Anne Rice?

Is there anything she has done since Interview?

Kalzazz

09-07-2008, 02:33 AM

I like the Kim Harrison Dead Witch Walking series, will try to pick up the Kat Richardson books

I also read a book by Sherilyn Kenyon I liked

BlueNinja

09-07-2008, 12:13 PM

I'm her fan, I thought you said you hadn't read Greywalker.

BattleNymph

09-07-2008, 12:35 PM

I thought you said you hadn't read Greywalker.

He's talking about Laurell Hamilton I think?

Haze

09-08-2008, 05:45 PM

Never read any of the GreWalker books or others by that author. Would the Simon Green (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_R._Green) Nightside books be of similar ilk?

Morden

09-08-2008, 07:51 PM

Never read any of the GreWalker books or others by that author. Would the Simon Green (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_R._Green) Nightside books be of similar ilk?

The Nightside is more epic (archetypes and suchlike). Greywalker is more 'normal' - closer to Kelley Armstrong's Otherworld series. At least the two first (the only ones I've read).

Brother Brian

09-08-2008, 08:04 PM

Dresden is awesome.

The tv series sucked donkey balls.

I agree, although Small Favor seemed a bit flat to me.

Harper

09-08-2008, 09:20 PM

I'm a fan of Jim Butcher, but I have to admit I can't keep up with the books. he's been a very busy guy the past two years. Check out the graphic novel if you can--it's Butcher's current fave project and it shows! (He does the writing himself.)

Simon R. Green is a bit more interested in archetypes than I am, but in terms of feel I think there are some similarities. And he's a genuinely odd guy, so you gotta love that all by itself. The new Nightside cycle is kind of like James Bond goes to Hell and Gets In Trouble than the previous cycle, IMO.

Laurell is still the reigning queen of the genre, but she's not writing what she used to. Take that how you will.

Haze

09-09-2008, 01:37 PM

The Nightside is more epic (archetypes and suchlike). Greywalker is more 'normal' - closer to Kelley Armstrong's Otherworld series. At least the two first (the only ones I've read).Okay, I've read most of her books. ;)

Morden

09-09-2008, 02:09 PM

Okay, I've read most of her books. ;)

I might have been a bit unclear there. :)
I've read all of Nightside and Otherworld, but only the two first of Greywalker.

So far, I'd say that Greywalker is about a normal person being dragged into weirdness, whereas Otherworld is about a kinda normal person walking by themselves into weirdness, and the Nightside is just plain weird.

Haze

09-09-2008, 04:49 PM

I might have been a bit unclear there. :)
I've read all of Nightside and Otherworld, but only the two first of Greywalker.Whereas I have read all of Otherworld, some of Nightside and none of Greywalker.
So far, I'd say that Greywalker is about a normal person being dragged into weirdness, whereas Otherworld is about a kinda normal person walking by themselves into weirdness, and the Nightside is just plain weird.LOL!

happykat

09-10-2008, 10:35 AM

Hmmmm....I think I just found my new reading material. :th_salute:

BTW, Kim Harrison I liked. Anita Blake is way overrated (I won't be reading those again).

Origen

09-10-2008, 10:51 AM

I thought you said you hadn't read Greywalker.

Keep reading after the comma.

Valdier

09-10-2008, 02:34 PM

Hmm, Anne Rice had some great books beyond Interview...

Ramses the Damned was one of my favorite. Servant of the Bones was another good one.

Anita Blake was good, then turned to werecat porn.

I haven't read Dresden, and I still have a book or three I have to read for Origen. (Just finished a 9 book series).

I think I will pick up the Greywalker stuff though and add it to the pile of things to read.

Edit: Is it just me or are $14.00 paperbacks a little steep?

Brother Brian

09-10-2008, 02:45 PM

BlueNinja

09-10-2008, 04:08 PM

I think I will pick up the Greywalker stuff though and add it to the pile of things to read.

Edit: Is it just me or are $14.00 paperbacks a little steep? The large size paperbacks are always more expensive. I'm not sure why, it doesn't seem like the page size should nearly double the price of the book.

Valdier

09-10-2008, 05:55 PM

The large size paperbacks are always more expensive. I'm not sure why, it doesn't seem like the page size should nearly double the price of the book.

Well I just picked up all three, the hardback for #3 is almost the same price as the paperbacks... so...

Harper

09-10-2008, 06:34 PM

The first 3 will be out in standard paperback next summer, FYI.

Imaginos

09-11-2008, 11:16 AM

I haven't read Greywalker yet but am right smack dab in the middle of the Harry Dresden series!

What book are you on? I'm about 1/3 way into Death Masks myself. I'm loving the series.

Hagelrat

09-12-2008, 04:11 AM

I love the dresden books, i'm hanging on for small favour in paperback though. Believe it or not I didn't buy the books for ages because i'd enjoyed yhe (yes i know rubbish) TV series and was worried I wouldn't like the books. I'm a fool.

Brother Brian

09-12-2008, 09:43 AM

I didn't hate the TV series...but it had little if nothing to do with the Dresden Files books.

For the most part Butcher's done way keeping the series building on itself without things looking like plot coupons. (With the possible exception of owing favors to a certain supernatural entity, which he cashed in on in the last book.)

There's a few things I really like about Dresden:

1. The charecter's are reasonably flawed. They weren't built using White Wolf's merits and flaws to balance each other. Some charecters are more flawed than others.

2. Harry does not wear the white hat. Harry is one of the more "real" protagonists I've read in a long time...despite being a wizard.

3. Rather than trying to recreate Dashell Hammet, the PI side of the world seems more inspired by Robert B. Parker. The dialog works.

As I said, I think he kind of mailed in Small Favor, as he's gotten busy with other stuff, including a pure fantasy series which it seemed to me was what he wanted to be writing anyway.

Imaginos

09-12-2008, 06:53 PM

My first exposure to Dresden was the TV series. I enjoyed it (though my wife did comment on the character being a man-whore every episode). I'm seeing the plots being shared from the books to the TV series to a small extent. I'm enjoying it, but I'm glad I saw the TV show first rather than vice versa. I can accept the divergence better this way.

Hagelrat

09-13-2008, 05:56 AM

Eric, i'm also very glad i saw them in that order, I enjoy the TV show having seen it first, but I think i'd have been disspointed the other way around.

Brother Brian

09-17-2008, 05:00 PM

Eric, i'm also very glad i saw them in that order, I enjoy the TV show having seen it first, but I think i'd have been disspointed the other way around.

Apart from nobody looking right, and the charecters being played and directed all wrong, and the removal of the main charecter's real flaws, the series was still poorly written, badly acted, and otherwise useless.

Had I not started the books before the shows, I would likely have never picked up the books.

Thing One

01-02-2009, 03:18 AM

I share the Greywalker series with my husband and younger brother.
I have been trying to get more people reading this series on a Book Group forum that I am part of, but I think they either expect more sex, or they like male protagonists more than I do.

I only like Butcher in his novella's. Otherwise Harry just pisses me off when he is incompetant. Simon R Green - I read for a book group. I don't like how 2D his females are - especially the first book.

I read 444 books last year, a ton of them on audio. 114 of them were brand new books. The Greywalker series is an automatic buy for me, and poor Kat has to deal with me as her major fan. I have had the amazing opportunity to see her a lot - as I am in Seattle and she does lots of events here.

My name on the forum is the one she gave me! :)

I think that Kat's is a refreshing change from so many of the formula paranormal stuff that is out right now. Thank god there isn't one vampire with a weird name that is super matcho and an amazing lover who is saved by Harper's love LOL

And I LOVE that these are set in Seattle (I have been to London so I am excited about book 4).

I read sci-fi, fantasy, paranormal, mystery, romance, action, humor, fiction and a ton of YA and teen books.

Has anyone else read Sunshine by Robin McKinley? It just came out on Audio!!!!!!

Harper

01-02-2009, 05:06 AM

Hi Thing One! Welcome to the forum.

I hope you'll report on Sunshine for us--I haven't even had time to buy it much less read it.

BlueNinja

01-02-2009, 01:07 PM

Simon R Green - I read for a book group. I don't like how 2D his females are - especially the first book. Which Simon R Green series are you referring to? The start of Nightside didn't really focus on anyone but John Taylor, but his other series like Deathstalker and Haven are more balanced in the main characters, who are not two-dimensional.

nerdgirl

01-04-2009, 09:33 PM

I love the Greywalker series! I picked up a copy of Greywalker in the Seattle Mystery Bookshop (fab store!) and just loved it. I have since bought the second and third (and tore through them in a couple of days) and can hardly wait for book four to come out. Does anybody know when that will be? ThingOne, you might be able to shed some light on this for me. I checked out Kat's site and it doesn't mention a release date.

Harper

01-04-2009, 09:43 PM

The date I've got right now is August 4, but I'm not sure since I've been kind of preoccupied. Amazon probably has it right.

Sakutian

01-05-2009, 10:25 PM

Hi everyone,

As far as fantsy is concerned I've read quite a bit of it over the eyars from any number of writers. I have read all of the Greywalker books and I enjoy them, the same can be said for The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher. I have a soft spot for supernatural detectives for some reason. Not quite sure why.

Honestly I love the worlds of magic where wizards are around every corner and dragons are underneath your bed. They're just amazing to me and they always have been.

Harper

01-06-2009, 07:14 PM

Hey, have you read Rob Thurman's Cal Leandros books? I'm very fond of Rob's stuff--she's good! (Yup, a girl named "Rob"...)

Sakutian

01-06-2009, 07:18 PM

Yeah I have actually, I really enjoyed them too. She's certainly a good writer and she has apretty unique world carved out for herself. I love Rob Fellows and George so much which is odd since they aren't really the main characters I suppose.

I've gotten into quite a run of female authors lately, they just seem to write what I like more often. Richelle Mead, Rachel Caine, Laurell K. Hamilton, Rob Thurman, and of course Kat Richardson too haha.

Harper

01-06-2009, 07:46 PM

How 'bout Wen Spencer? L.A. Banks? Both pretty good girls-in-androgynous-pseudonyms, though Banks is a lot farther on the Horror side. The flip side of that coin is Kelly McCollough who's a guy with a girly name. Nice fellow, though I haven't had the time to read his books.

Sakutian

01-06-2009, 07:53 PM

Nope to all three I'm afarid, so many authors so little time. Plus I've become spoiled on supernatural detectives ever since I picked up Harrry Dresden for the first time. Anything else has to fight twice as hard to make t it to my shopping bag, or at least fight dirty

Harper

01-07-2009, 04:48 AM

Y'know... from the rest of your comments, I'm betting you're going to love Remy Chandler when you get to reading Tom Sniegoski's novella in Mean Streets...

Sakutian

01-07-2009, 05:00 AM

*Sigh* Sadly my copy of Mean Streets has been waylayid by nerdowells and I shall have to wait at least a day or two longer for it. Now I'm really curious though thats three stories in it I want to read.

With a name like Remy though I'd say you've made a safe bet for me to like him.

Sakutian

01-08-2009, 06:48 PM

Y'know... from the rest of your comments, I'm betting you're going to love Remy Chandler when you get to reading Tom Sniegoski's novella in Mean Streets...

For the record you were pretty dead on, I do like Remy enough to be interested in his seires.

AnotherSKip

01-16-2009, 02:19 PM

Though not at all familiar with Dresden or Greywalker....

I like Mercedes Lackey, I really wish she would retackle Diana Tregarde and deal some more with modern supernatural investigations.

Is anything relatively close to another ML group of Books the Elemental Masters?

Also Anyone read Suzanna Clarks Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrel?

or is that too off/early for this kind of style?

*Runs just in case they grab up Pitchforks and torches....*

BlueNinja

01-16-2009, 03:18 PM

I like Mercedes Lackey, I really wish she would retackle Diana Tregarde and deal some more with modern supernatural investigations. Lackey only ever did the three Tregarde books, which I think were probably my first foray into "urban fantasy". I think she and Rosemary Edgehill have even stopped writing in the Bedlam's Bard set, almost as though the more urban fantasy that has been written, the less they want to.

Sakutian

01-16-2009, 05:56 PM

Also Anyone read Suzanna Clarks Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrel?

or is that too off/early for this kind of style?

*Runs just in case they grab up Pitchforks and torches....*

I read and enjoyed it a while ago, not pitchforks or torches neede your safe.

Harper

01-16-2009, 06:25 PM

Somewhere around there's a long and rather heart-rending post by Ms. Lackey about why she stopped writing the Diana Tregarde novels. It's pretty grim and with the associations she has for that series, I'm not surprised she hasn't gone back to it. I was a bit surprised the old ones were reissued, but I guess that was really up to her publisher, not her.

I'm working through the Elemental Masters series at the moment and I really like it. Her twisted takes on fairy tales are wonderful. Jim C. Hines has a new book out that takes off from the post-Happily Ever After ending of Cinderella, so if you like the new twist on fairytales approach, you might want to check out his new book, THE STEPSISTER SCEME. It's traditional, not urban, fantasy, but it's loads of fun.

whitetrash

08-02-2009, 09:36 PM

I'm a new fan and will stay a fan love the series so far.

Harper

08-04-2009, 01:11 AM

gosh, thanks. And welcome to the forum! Don't forget to take a look at the rest of Critical Fumble--there's some really nifty things in the main boards if you are into RPGs.

whitetrash

08-05-2009, 05:48 PM

I'm not inot rpg havent play since the 80s

Magnus Bergqvist

08-05-2009, 06:58 PM

Even though the forum started as a RPG-forum, let's just say that the discussions on the main forums deal with a LOT of other stuff. A warning though, tempers can and do flare, but only insofar as you get what you give.

So do check it out. We don't bite (much)... =^_^=

/Magnus

whitetrash

08-06-2009, 04:31 PM

thanks bitten not a good thing

denthor

03-23-2010, 11:07 PM

BlueNinja

08-11-2011, 09:39 PM

As a bump to the stickied thread, I'd like to issue an official welcome to all the new posters and new Greyminions. If you haven't taken the time yet, please check out the rest of the website - <shamelessplug> especially the Roleplaying forum or my new sub-forum for a new World of Darkness RPG game. </shamelessplug> Above all, I hope you enjoy your stay here, and please let myself, or the Almighty Mod Starhawk know if there's any problems with the forums.