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Salah_ad_Din
12-06-2006, 03:56 PM
I know a few other people play warcrack. If anyone is on the Echo Isles server let me know and we can hook up.
I finally joined a guild out of the frustration of not being able to find a decent group for any of the instance dungeons. I went with a pickup group into the Deadmines. We got wiped in the first room as all but on of the players did incredibly stupid things. I went back a week later and got lucky _ joined a group that ws in a guild together and when we finished they invited me to join.
Now I have a solid group of people to go to other instances with. SOme guilds require you to commit to raids one night a week but this group is very laid back about it. They're all adults with kids who understand that gamign is a part time thing.
So I played my Dwarf Hunter up to 26. Then I switched to a human Paladin that I've played up to 38. I much prefer the Paladin for my style of play. He almost never dies, he's like the Energizer bunny, he's always the last one standing. Sometimes the mobs die of old age, but they always seem to die. :D I have literally gone away from my desk to get a snack while fighting a big monster. He was dead when I got back. :D
All in all its very fun, though I only have a limited time to play.
Salah-ad Din,
Jesus freak
Morden
12-06-2006, 04:28 PM
If you ever meet Hordies in wow-forums, be prepared for a massive dose of hate, bubble-boy. :)
Guilds aren't necessary to enjoy the game, but if you find the right one, it can make it so much better.
We just started recruiting for ours, and are now starting to put together a 10 man raidgroup pluss reserves if somebody isn't online. Getting the right combination for the instance is easier in a guild as well, compared to a PUG.
PUGs suck.
The only reason I'd play a blood elf is to play a paladin and quite frankly I'm annoyed at Blizzard's choice of races added. IMHO the Horde race should have been Goblins and undead should have had Paladin added to their playable classes. We still don't have short people damnit.
Personally I'm all horde, all the time. Mostly out of a desire to avoid dealing with 14 yr old night elf players with a pointy ear festish. That and a strong desire to kill gnomes wherever I can find them. ;)
After last night I'm stoked in all sorts of ways although I pity salah as he'll be downloading the 500mb patch all week no doubt. He might be able to log in by the time the weekend get's here. The new Beastmastery tree for hunters rox on more levels and in more ways than words can easily express. I had to give up aimed shot in order to have it all but I'll just compensate for that dps loss with a really fast bow and a scope. (faster the bow the more benefit a scope gives you.) Between my talens and my quiver I'm running at 33% haste all the time with an ability that procs for more once I get a crit so with a super fast bow I get more chances to crit... (You see where this is going.)
Cranky Dog
12-06-2006, 04:39 PM
Sorry Salah, but my MMORPG crack is Guildwars and I'm quite content with it.
I'm surprisingly still not bored with it after over 18 months, even if I do play mostly solo.
Cranky Dog
"I have a MMORPG addiction opinion, international!"
JasonStarfire
12-06-2006, 04:44 PM
I'm trying to avoid getting sucked into Warcrack, but my girlfriend is really interested in playing, so I'll probably succumb at some point.
Lost Soul
12-06-2006, 04:48 PM
I don't play World of Warcrack, but I'm hooked to A Tale in the Desert.
Well, hooked is such a big word - it's the only game I'm playing at the moment, but I'm not playing that much.
It's combat-free, which means it doesn't attract as many kids (though with a 24-hours free demo (24 hours of gaming time, obviously) the occasional idiot comes around. The whole game resolves about passing tests, and around the socialization (trading is a necessity to prosper. You can solo the game, but it's just so much faster to trade for some ressources that it's not worth it.)
It's been fun so far, and unlike the other MMORPG I've tried, the tutorial is actually useful and fun. On the other hand, the learning curve is a bit steep, the build tree has some serious bottlenecks in it (notably, I've hit one recently that requires me to get a specific ressource: the ressource is easy to get, but it requires a team effort and it isn't that useful beyond that chokepoint, so experienced players aren't that interested to help.) It's still fun, though, because I like figuring out how to get a ressource (I've found one workaround for my current problem, but it's probably less trouble to put a group together.)
The other flaw is that the game isn't produced by a huge shop, and so it's extremely vulnerable to lack of support. The server is amazingly stable, but the game went for a month without any events because the guy in charge of events was moving to Hawaii.
Morden
12-06-2006, 04:49 PM
IMHO the Horde race should have been Goblins and undead should have had Paladin added to their playable classes. We still don't have short people damnit.
Goblins have been neutral for too long, and I think it would need changes to both the factions and the travelroutes.
That and a strong desire to kill gnomes wherever I can find them. ;)
Amen! :thumbup:
Goblins have been neutral for too long, and I think it would need changes to both the factions and the travelroutes.
Given that both sides have places/quests that they can do involving them I think that Dranei, Blood Elves, and Goblins all need to be playable by both sides honestly.
Morden
12-06-2006, 05:06 PM
I think that Dranei, Blood Elves, and Goblins all need to be playable by both sides honestly.
That would be cool if you could join both sides as you pleased, or maybe following quest-chains to determine wich side you're on?
That would be cool if you could join both sides as you pleased, or maybe following quest-chains to determine wich side you're on?
Faction dependent. You start out with the horde and alliance both at neutral but as soon a you bump one or the other up to "friendly" the other's are automatically at war with you... :D
Origen
12-06-2006, 05:21 PM
That and a strong desire to kill gnomes wherever I can find them. ;)
Amen. And amen.
Starhawk
12-06-2006, 05:23 PM
The best thing I did for myself in 2006 was cancelling my World of Warcraft account.
I played a rogue to 60 and hit the proverbial brick wall.
My guild didn't do much endgame raiding. I had serious trouble getting into pick-up groups because I played late at night, and because of my class (everyone wants a healer or a tank). I had done all the PVP I cared to do and there was no way to improve my character without the l33t endgame gear.
So one day, I realized I wasn't having fun anymore. I quit the game and concentrated more on school. No regrets, and I'm not buying the expansion.
Morden
12-06-2006, 05:24 PM
Faction dependent. You start out with the horde and alliance both at neutral but as soon a you bump one or the other up to "friendly" the other's are automatically at war with you... :D
Hmm... could you then possibly get PVP rewards from both sides before you're pushed over the line? Now that's imba :D
Hmm... could you then possibly get PVP rewards from both sides before you're pushed over the line? Now that's imba :D
Unlikely. Just set it so that you can't PVP for either side until they "trust" you.
The best thing I did for myself in 2006 was cancelling my World of Warcraft account.
I played a rogue to 60 and hit the proverbial brick wall.
My guild didn't do much endgame raiding. I had serious trouble getting into pick-up groups because I played late at night, and because of my class (everyone wants a healer or a tank). I had done all the PVP I cared to do and there was no way to improve my character without the l33t endgame gear.
So one day, I realized I wasn't having fun anymore. I quit the game and concentrated more on school. No regrets, and I'm not buying the expansion.
As soon as I stop having fun and the game looks more like a task than the fun it's supposed to be I will set it aside and walk away. In the meantime I'm actually enjoying having reached the endgame sections of an MMORPG at this point. (frst ever for me.)
Salah_ad_Din
12-06-2006, 06:48 PM
I stopped having fun with my Hunter so I made a Paladin. If nothing is fun then it's time to quit paying the monthly fee. But right now it's a lot of fun.
Goblins are too well established as Neutral. What would Booty Bay be if the goblins were hostile to Alliance? Nah, neutral goblins is the way to go. They're all about a buck. I haven't checked out these new races so I don't know about them yet.
I've been downloading the patch for about a week now and it's 20% complete. :D I had a friend with broadband download the whole thing as an .exe file and I'm applying it tonight so I'll be playing tonight hopefully.
My boys are asking about buying the expansion but we haven't explored much of what's already there yet. When we've done all the current material I might think about buying more.
My kids like to play Horde, but I haven't tried it yet. I know that they seem to run into a lot of weenie Horde players, but I guess that happens on both sides. I know what you mean about the elves. My five year old girl has a night elf hunter who just runs around Darnassus swimming in the pools. :D
Salah-ad-Din,
Jesus freak
Oh the game is full of wennie tots on both sides but there's a huge imbalance of Alliance over Horde. I love seeing those wennie tots go down regardless of the side.
hidufel
12-06-2006, 07:43 PM
I too am stuck on WOW. I have an undead mage and an undead warlock, and of course I'm waiting for the expansion for BE to get my hunter rolled up and possibly a paladin. I Started wow back up in Aug, a friend in a rl gaming group invited us to join his guild... and they are a solid group of players, they make the difference for me fun factor, i must say. They play hoard so all my characters are hoard ATM.
Its too bad we play on different servers, all of us. I tried making a rogue on eonar, to join up with ****, but really, i want to get my main characters leveled up, so time spent on eonar, is time away from my main characters... grr. Now with Salah on echo isles, it just makes it that much more difficult for us to all get together. ;-(
WE have enough people on this board who all play that we could easily all pick a server and create our own guild honestly. Were that people actually interested I'd recommend a low population server.
JasonStarfire
12-06-2006, 08:05 PM
WE have enough people on this board who all play that we could easily all pick a server and create our own guild honestly. Were that people actually interested I'd recommend a low population server.
If I get hooked on the WC train I'll be happy to join up.
Parzival
12-06-2006, 08:47 PM
Morden! Wait. Didn't GW just put out a competing product? <ducks>
Hey hidufel, I was flipping through a computer game mag recently, and saw an advertisement for the CCG WoW was putting out.
One of the three cards displayed was "Leroy Jenkins". Thought you might get a kick out of that.
hidufel
12-06-2006, 09:43 PM
Morden! Wait. Didn't GW just put out a competing product? <ducks>
Hey hidufel, I was flipping through a computer game mag recently, and saw an advertisement for the CCG WoW was putting out.
One of the three cards displayed was "Leroy Jenkins". Thought you might get a kick out of that.
Yeah thats cool that hes made it into the WOW history. I even saw a Jeopardy answer involving leeroy jenkins...
Zayda
12-06-2006, 10:29 PM
The only reason I'd play a blood elf is to play a paladin and quite frankly I'm annoyed at Blizzard's choice of races added. IMHO the Horde race should have been Goblins and undead should have had Paladin added to their playable classes. We still don't have short people damnit.
Personally I'm all horde, all the time. Mostly out of a desire to avoid dealing with 14 yr old night elf players with a pointy ear festish. That and a strong desire to kill gnomes wherever I can find them. ;)
After last night I'm stoked in all sorts of ways although I pity salah as he'll be downloading the 500mb patch all week no doubt. He might be able to log in by the time the weekend get's here. The new Beastmastery tree for hunters rox on more levels and in more ways than words can easily express. I had to give up aimed shot in order to have it all but I'll just compensate for that dps loss with a really fast bow and a scope. (faster the bow the more benefit a scope gives you.) Between my talens and my quiver I'm running at 33% haste all the time with an ability that procs for more once I get a crit so with a super fast bow I get more chances to crit... (You see where this is going.)
Tauren should be able to punt gnomes, IMHO.
But you do realize that for hunters, many of the epic items lost agility. The agility was replaced by attack power instead. The AP given by agility was knocked down; it's no longer 2:1 but it's 1:1. So, you're losing agility and attack power to boot. Agility is what affects your crit chance. Because they pulled agility off of items, your crit chances ar now lower, regardless of your spec.
Tauren should be able to punt gnomes, IMHO.
But you do realize that for hunters, many of the epic items lost agility. The agility was replaced by attack power instead. The AP given by agility was knocked down; it's no longer 2:1 but it's 1:1. So, you're losing agility and attack power to boot. Agility is what affects your crit chance. Because they pulled agility off of items, your crit chances ar now lower, regardless of your spec.
I know they dialed a lot of things back. I'm ok with some of it. Others we'll wait and see.
Morden
12-07-2006, 08:21 AM
WE have enough people on this board who all play that we could easily all pick a server and create our own guild honestly. Were that people actually interested I'd recommend a low population server.
I'd be interested if I had an American Account. Anybody play on Nordrassil by any chance?
Morden! Wait. Didn't GW just put out a competing product? <ducks>
Not yet, but the beta is nice :)
hidufel
12-07-2006, 05:15 PM
Is anyone else having issues now with the content update? My whole game is frelled up now becasue of this.:angry: My whole interface is screwed, my quests are all gone, my skills in tailoring are all gone, i dont have an avatar that shows at all... (my voidwalker looks like hes running around all by himself.) My items in the bank are gone, I cant hardly interact with npcs without losing my connection, no one else in the world looks like they are wearting clothes..... the list goes on and on. This was working fine before the 2.0 patch... :wtf: :th_down:
Ive disbled all of my addons and also removed the folders they were in per WOW directions from my support ticket... Im seriously frelling upset about this right now.
Morden
12-07-2006, 05:26 PM
No problems except all my addons being "not compatible".
Of course, I'd just managed to get everything just the way I wanted it last weekend...
Is anyone else having issues now with the content update? My whole game is frelled up now becasue of this.:angry: My whole interface is screwed, my quests are all gone, my skills in tailoring are all gone, i dont have an avatar that shows at all... (my voidwalker looks like hes running around all by himself.) My items in the bank are gone, I cant hardly interact with npcs without losing my connection, no one else in the world looks like they are wearting clothes..... the list goes on and on. This was working fine before the 2.0 patch... :wtf: :th_down:
Ive disbled all of my addons and also removed the folders they were in per WOW directions from my support ticket... Im seriously frelling upset about this right now.
Actaully it sounds like you got hacked dude.
Zayda
12-08-2006, 01:00 AM
I know they dialed a lot of things back. I'm ok with some of it. Others we'll wait and see.
I'll be honest, I looked at the new talents and went :signs053:. I have no clue what I want to do with my hunter now. I did the same thing with my mage. My husband on the other hand had no problems deciding what to do with his Shaman, his Warrior, or his Warlock.
He's looking at the hunter talents and changing his mind every 5 minutes about what he wants to do.
Well what I did was to stick with what's been carrying me thorugh. Max beastmaster and then put it all into marksman. That one talent that gives you a huge speed boost is just too good to pass up. That would be for leveling. If you're going to be working on PVP or raiding I'd say go some survivalist/marksman combo. The important part is to get as much crit chance as possible for your aimed shots of course.
Zayda
12-08-2006, 01:35 AM
Well what I did was to stick with what's been carrying me thorugh. Max beastmaster and then put it all into marksman. That one talent that gives you a huge speed boost is just too good to pass up. That would be for leveling. If you're going to be working on PVP or raiding I'd say go some survivalist/marksman combo. The important part is to get as much crit chance as possible for your aimed shots of course.
Yeah, my original spec was Marksman/Survivalist, which is probably what I will stick with. I think I am balking at doing anything at the moment because I haven't had time to really look closely at the new talent trees. I've been swamped with work. (Two more weeks...two more weeks...she says to herself.)
hidufel
12-08-2006, 02:50 AM
Actaully it sounds like you got hacked dude.
Thankfully it wasnt that...
I finally fixed the issue, but i had to make changes to my network card. actuall hardware settings within the network card itself.
Now im connected.
The bank things wa sa known issue on wow, so i wasnt TOO worried about that...
Im just happy im connected again.
Now to search out for 2.0 compatible addons. I understand ten tonne hammer has some.
Grendel
12-11-2006, 10:50 PM
Never played any online RPG. Never will. And SOOO glad about it.
TinSoldier
12-11-2006, 11:43 PM
Not really interested in WOW, but I just had the idea that I should make a character (game or fiction) named General Warcrack. That would be cool...
LagomorphPrime
12-12-2006, 11:44 AM
Warlocks got all the lovin' in 2.0. My dps went up by a lot just from the new talents. At this point no self respecting warlock should be out dpsed by a mage in similar gear.
The new priest talents blow, all three 41 point talents are crap. Though the adjustments to +healing gear means my Renew ticks for 451 every 3 seconds now, which is nice (was about 420 before). That combined with HoTs being able to stack is good news for tanks.
Can't wait for the addons I use to get updated. I just use CTRaid, LaVendetta, and Wardrobe.
We're kinda taking a break from raiding nowadays just waiting for expansion. I'll start a dranei priest when expansion hits and possibly put my NE priest on e-bay. Dranei are just too good for the priest class to be anything else on the Alliance side. I might consider a server switch at that point as well, if serious talk is put into getting everyone on one server I could probably swing that on my end. Our biggest hurdle with that idea, though, is playtimes being different for each of us.
The new hunter tree is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. My TURTLE can dps at 70+ before Frenzy or Bestial Wrath. :D My co worker that does a lot of PVP has been killing Warriors and their attendant priests before either can do anything about it. In terms of PVE I'm able to SOLO 5-6 yellows at a time now without having to FD or use Pots. I am so happy it's not even vuagely funny. ;)
Valdier
12-12-2006, 02:33 PM
Yep my warlock is doing ridiculous DPS now, same with the hunter... expect both to get the ugly end of the nerf stick soon...
My priest isn't 60 yet but yeah, the priest talent upgrades were pretty uninspiring... haven't gotten a chance to play my 60 shaman yet either.
Adam G
12-24-2006, 07:35 AM
I'm seriously considering dropping the game.
I've enjoyed it. (Horde, btw, troll mage atm). However I don't play often enough to get into the engame raids. That's a pain when you hit 60. There's not much else to do but grind, grind, grind, and while I'm sure the expansion will briefly change things, eventually the character will hit the same problem.
That isn't what's pissed me off. The goldfarmers did that, as did the updates.
I can't log on now without getting at least one or two whispers, forced groups, or mailspam. Gold, gold, gold and more gold, as though I really care. If a player had indulged in that level of harassment I'd report them, but when a bot does it there's little point in getting a GM involved.
The updates have wasted hours of my time (download hell) and killed some of my favorite quest strings. I don't enjoy working my way through STV's Zanzil string, only to discover at the end of it that you can't save the captive. Or scooping up termites in EPL, only to discover at the end of it that you can't use them to destroy the mill. Or . . . . but you get the idea.
Now if I stay it's only to keep online friends happy. I'm not getting much enjoyment out of the game itself. I probably won't bother to buy the expansion.
Chimaera
12-24-2006, 03:19 PM
So, I'm still a relative n00b at WoW... I've got a 60 Troll Rogue, but I haven't been able to get it together to do the PVP grind or hit the end-game instances, much less the end-game raids. Anyhow, I'm eagerly anticipating the expansion... it seems to me that the talent trees are being designed to reward single tree specialties. I've re-speced Bhatri (my Troll) as almost full Subtlety. My next character is going to be a Blood Elf Mage (yeah, yeah, I know... me and everyone else) and I'm thinking of going full Arcane, as opposed to Arcane/Fire or Arcane/Frost (of the two, I prefer the latter). Anyhow, here's my proposed build (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-mage/talents.html?2552552312230152331125100000000000000 000000000000000000000000000000); any comments or hints?
I'm also flirting with going Elemental (i.e.: Fire/Frost), but it seems to me that there is definitely a payoff for specializing in this game and the Arcane tree seems to be the way to go.
Darkrose50
01-05-2007, 10:47 PM
I made a prist on Echo Isles named Holyflower
Chimaera
01-11-2007, 09:14 AM
My new full-Subtlety Rogue is working out nicely, although I miss Cloak of Shadows... I just need to get it together to find a decent guild so I can properly end-game. My gear is absolutely pathetic and I haven't yet run DM, BRD, BRS, Scholo or Strat, so I've only got two pieces of Shadowcraft and none of the flask recipes (I'm Herbalism/Alchemy).
Now, I used to run using Cosmos, but I just set up TitanBar and a suite of Titan AddOns. What do you guys use in terms of UI mods? And I'm rolling Belf Mage coming Tuesday... any thoughts on my Arcane spec (link above)?
LagomorphPrime
01-11-2007, 09:20 AM
The only addons I use anymore are CT RaidAssist and La Vendetta Boss Mods. At this point though CT is acting a little wonky and I haven't set La Vendetta up since 2.0 hit.
I do recommend a good wardrobe addon though. I had one that let you save each "outfit" seperately and would auto-swap all your gear when you clicked on the outfit you wanted from a drop down menu. It even offered an option to switch to an outfit automatically when you mounted (equipping your carrot, boots with spurs, and glove with enchant if you have 'em). It would also automatically put those away and re-equip whatever you were wearing before when you dismount. Since 2.0 it doesn't work, I haven't looked to see if someone updated the mod though. I think it was called AL Wardrobe or something like that, I'll hafta check at some point.
Chimaera
01-11-2007, 09:22 AM
Wouldja believe I don't even have my Carrot on a Stick yet? I've got the Mallet, but I haven't been able to swing a crew to get my Carrot.
<hangs head in shame>
LagomorphPrime
01-11-2007, 10:02 AM
Most people never even bother to make the mallet, they just get someone else to do it. I still have the mallet on my characters that leveled, just for the purpose of helping others get their carrot. It's quick and easy, especially if you get 3 or 4 60's together. A 60 can ride through most of ZF without aggroing anything if they're paying attention, and Gahz himself is a sissy.
Btw, I've moved servers and now only play on Alleria, though I wouldn't recommend making characters on Alleria 'cuz it's crowded. I only went back 'cuz I miss a lot of the people there I used to play with. And since transfers cost $25 a pop I only sent my lock and my mage. :sad010:
I feel your pain chim. I just got into a guild though and they're slowly hooking me up.
Chimaera
01-11-2007, 06:35 PM
Guys... I'm appealing to the WoW cognoscenti here... especially those of you with Mage experience... would you check out the Arcane spec I put together and linked to above? I've only really played a Rogue, levelling my one character to 60 and doing a middling job of it. I'm interested in tips and strats for a mage and some ideas about the full-Arcane spec.
Edit -- Here is the link (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-mage/talents.html?2552552312230152331125100000000000000 000000000000000000000000000000) again...
LagomorphPrime
01-11-2007, 06:44 PM
I'm partial to frost, myself. My mage is only 44 right now, but at 60 his spec would be:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-mage/talents.html?0000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000535323313235010051051
But with the expansion coming out in a few days I have to consider his 70 spec, which will probably be:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-mage/talents.html?2300050000000000000000000000000000000 000000000535323313235010051051
If you need help with a priest, though, I'm your guy. :)
I love my lock, but I'm still getting the hang of being an end game dps machine, so I don't quite qualify as an expert on them yet but I'm pretty decent so far. Just needs me some better gear and more practice is all...
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